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Ciao a tutti!

Parlo inglese e spagnolo, ma non italiano, quindi Google sta traducendo per me, scusate eventuali errori!

Ho una stufa Axel 8.5kW che è nel salone accanto al televisore, quindi ho bisogno di renderlo più tranquillo.

Ho scaricato i parametri personalizzati forniti da Fantasens (Inviato il: 19/10 / 2013,07:58) e corretti da biomassa.

Potete per favore dirmi come modificare i parametri?

Grazie

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hi
do you need a key for axel stove?
have you factory parameters in the stove?



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te he enviado un mensaje privado.
¿Que problemas tiene la estufa?



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Which parameters would you change and why?



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Inviato il: 01/02/2015 18:39:29

Hi Biomass

Thanks for your replies.
I have the key now, thank you very much.
I will change the parameters to match the ones given in the post I quoted, namely reducing both fan speeds across the different potencias.
I understand completely the importance of making gradual changes.
I need to make the stove quieter and also to increase the heat output, reducing the fan speeds to the settings you recommended in another post should achieve both things.
I have other problems with the stove about which I would be grateful for your advice later, but I will change the fan speeds first before making any other changes.

How do you copy the parameters?

I am impressed with your language skills, I wish mine were as good!

Thanks and regards

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Inviato il: 01/02/2015 19:30:26

CITAZIONE (daveinspain, 01/02/2015 18:39:29 ) Discussione.php?212344&1#MSG4

Hi Biomass

Thanks for your replies.
How do you copy the parameters?

I am impressed with your language skills, I wish mine were as good!
daveinspain



for spanish, I need help from my daugther.
for english, i'm still learning..

you can copy the parameters, easily.
Complete this list whit the data you see on the display for all 5 programs.

(sorry for italian list..)
parameters programm n°
Coc1 on reg1:
Coc1 on reg2:
Coc1 on reg3:
Coc1 on reg4:
Coc1 on reg5:
Coc1 on reg6:
Coc on stab f:
Fumi regime 1:
Fumi regime 2:
Fumi regime 3:
Fumi regime 4:
Fumi regime 5:
Fumi regime 6:
Fumi accensione:
Fumi avvio:
Vent regime 1:
Vent regime 2:
Vent regime 3:
Vent regime 4:
Vent regime 5:
Vent regime 6:
Crog on reg1:
Crog on reg2:
Crog on reg3:
Crog on reg4:
Crog on reg5:
Crog on reg6:
T pulizia iniz:
T carico:
T pausa:
T attesa fiamma:
T stabi fiamma:
T rit crogiolo:
T pul periodica:
Durata pul per:
T carico res:
T pausa 1 res:
T att f 1 res:
T spegnimento:
T funz cont:
T rit spegn:
T rit pas reg:
Temp fumi vent:
Temp fumi avvio:
Temp fumi max:
Temp f spegn:
Temp fumi mant:
D.T. amb riacc:
Assorb 2 res:
Assorb 1 res:


every stove has its parameters
I would not copy others parameters by other users.

To help you, i need the temperature of stove's smokes at power1
after half hour.
Only after the copy (backup) you can change parameters



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Hi Biomass

Temperature on Power 1 after 30 mins = 102C

Current Parameters as set by CS Thermos technico except where marked.
Coc1 on reg1: 1.2
Coc1 on reg2: 1.6
Coc1 on reg3: 2.0
Coc1 on REG4: 2.4
Coc1 on REG5: 2.8
Coc1 on REG6: 3.2
(The load parameters above were increased by me to stop the fire going out on modulation due to no pellets in firepot – now OK)
Coc on stab f: 1.3
Fumi regime 1: 160
Fumi regime 2: 170
Fumi regime 3: 180
Fumi regime 4: 190
Fumi regime 5: 200
Fumi regime 6: 210
Fumes ignition: 240
Fumes start: 250
Vent system 1: 75
Vent system 2: 90
Vent system 3: 105
Vent system 4: 120
Vent regime 5: 135
Vent system 6: 160
T Initial cleaning: 30
T load: 50 (Changed by me to 110 to stop fire going out on startup, seems OK now)
T pause: 130
T waiting flame: 720
T stabi flame: 120
T pul periodical: 1800 (Changed by me to 900 see T load above, seems OK now)
Duration pul for: 20
T load 1 res: 50
T pause 1 res: 130
T att f 1 res: 900
T off: 60
T func cont: 0
T rit Power Off: 30
T reg rit pas: 40
Temp fumes vent: 80
Temp fumes start: 60
Temp fumes max: 230
Temp f Power Off: 65
Temp fumes mant: 110
D.T. amb CYCLE POWER: 2
Capillary 2 res: 1.2
Capillary res 1: 0.6

I can change the parameters without copying on my stove, just change and press 'SET', and its done!

Thanks again for your help,

Dave

 

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CITAZIONE (daveinspain, 02/02/2015 18:38:50 ) Discussione.php?212344&1#MSG6

Hi Biomass

Temperature on Power 1 after 30 mins = 102C
ok


Current Parameters as set by CS Thermos technico except where marked.
Coc1 on reg1: 1.2
Coc1 on reg2: 1.6
Coc1 on reg3: 2.0
Coc1 on REG4: 2.4
Coc1 on REG5: 2.8
Coc1 on REG6: 3.2 if the temperature to stay below 200 degrees, is ok
(The load parameters above were increased by me to stop the fire going out on modulation due to no pellets in firepot – now OK)
Coc on stab f: 1.3
Fumi regime 1: 160
Fumi regime 2: 170
Fumi regime 3: 180
Fumi regime 4: 190
Fumi regime 5: 200
Fumi regime 6: 210
Fumes ignition: 240 if you want to reduce noise, you can reduce this parameter to 200
Fumes start: 250 if you want to reduce noise, you can reduce this parameter to 200
Vent system 1: 75
Vent system 2: 90
Vent system 3: 105
Vent system 4: 120
Vent regime 5: 135
Vent system 6: 160
T Initial cleaning: 30
T load: 50 (Changed by me to 110) if the pellet covers of at least 5 mm resistances, is ok
T pause: 130
T waiting flame: 720
T stabi flame: 120
T pul periodical: 1800 (Changed by me to 900 see T load above, seems OK now)
Duration
pul for: 20
T load 1 res: 50
T pause 1 res: 130
T att f 1 res: 900
T off: 60
T func cont: 0
T rit Power Off: 30
T reg rit pas: 40
Temp fumes vent: 80 if you want 70 degrees, starting first
Temp fumes start: 60
Temp fumes max: 230
Temp f Power Off: 65
Temp fumes mant: 110
D.T. amb CYCLE POWER: 2
Capillary 2 res: 1.2
Capillary res 1: 0.6

I can change the parameters without copying on my stove, just change and press 'SET', and its done!

Thanks again for your help,

Dave




not bad. what do you think?



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Hi Biomass

I have been changing the Fumi and Vent fan speeds to obtain the best balance between heat and noise.
At the moment I have:

Fumi regime 1: 140
Fumi regime 2: 150
Fumi regime 3: 160
Fumi regime 4: 170
Fumi regime 5: 180
Fumi regime 6: 190

Vent system 1: 60
Vent system 2: 70
Vent system 3: 80
Vent system 4: 95
Vent regime 5: 115
Vent system 6: 130



I will experiment further with the Fumi parameters, but I now have hot air coming out of the stove for the first time, before it was only warm, so thank you very much for your help!Faccine/thumbup.gif

Is there a download available of the maintenance/service manual for the Axel 8.5 kW pellet stove? The auger 1 (Coc1) is very noisy, and makes the whole stove buzz and vibrate when it is working, so I would like to check that it has been fitted correctly.

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I am very happy for you.
There aren't manuals on the web.
I can help you with photos or tricks.
You can put a rubber band between the gear box of coc1 and chassis.
The vibrations stop in this way.

please, watch this LINK



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Inviato il: 27/09/2023 19:02:05

Salve , sono un possessore di una thermos axel , una stufa ferma da 4 anni , ho provato ad accenderla ,ma all'avvio mi da allarme 2 acc. e poi va in spegnimento , ho letto qui che sono le candelette , ma le ho provate da fuori e si iniziano a riscaldare , premetto che le avevo già cambiate un anno prima di fermarla . potrebbe essere una questione del settaggio? le candelette originali quanti watt sono ? Poichè l'ho acquistata usata non ho il manuale Faccine/Smileys_0086.gif

 

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Inviato il: 27/09/2023 20:13:40

Ciao nino1969,
prima di fermare la stufa 4 anni fa, funzionava tutto senza problemi?
La stufa l'hai pulita per bene? anche giro fumi e scambiatore interno?
La canna fumaria è pulita e libera?



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Inviato il: 27/09/2023 21:46:39

CITAZIONE (nino1969, 27/09/2023 19:02:05 ) Discussione.php?212344&1#MSG10

Salve , sono un possessore di una thermos axel

Puo darsi che le candelette funzionino ma che scarichino a massa...provale con un tester



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